B-Day Present this year from my children the Audio Technica Turntable.

First I must say my kids are the best they got this Turntable for me.
Quite a few years “5 Years” back I purchased a super chepo Encore Turntable that at time seemed fine.
Until I heard another Turntable that was older than mine but sounded 100x better:-(
Yes, I was sad I haven’t listened to Vinyl since the late 70’s to early 80’s so what I knew about a decent Turntable was absolutely nothing.
Not that I’m a pro now or a Vinyl sound Audiophile.
But the Encore Turntable output  sounded terrible and I have a decent setup “Receiver & Speakers”. The voices sounded like cardboard and lacked all bass no matter how hard I cranked the bass on my sub or my receiver which the one I have is known for heavy bass could barely get a thump out of Beastie Boys License to ill.

I spent the last year reading about different tables I knew I did not need a high end model so had my eye on a few that were in the $150-$200 range.
It finally came down to the Audio Technica models these got great reviews for the low end models as well as the mid and high end models.
I started eye balling the Audio-Technica AT-LP60 which was selling at the $150 range for some time and was getting stellar reviews regarding its sound quality stating it matched up to the $500 tables out there easily.
Then come March low and behold there I see one on E-bay for $78 it sold before I decided to buy it.
They were selling from $99.99 to $120 so I check out Best Buy and they have this deck on sale for an awesome price of $89.99. Amazon or E-bay could not match price at the time I was buying. And I could now go locally to get it and have it in me hands in less than an hour.

Which I did yes I picked it up but my children paid for it so awesome I love them!!
It required some assembly.
It is a solid Table the platter is aluminum has a built in Pre-Amp that can be turned on or off. Which is amazing and plays 33 and a 3rd speed and 45rpm and comes with a 45 adapter.
78rpm is not on this model the LP120 models offer 78s but you won’t be finding any recent albums running at 78 anyhow. My old player did offer all 3-33,45 & 78 but that matters not when the sound you get is sub-par.
The arm can be set for 12″ or 7″ this way it known where to bring the arm down since you don’t set the arm manually the player does this for you and does a great job at it.
Never a single scratch noise stopping or starting.
The dust cover can be removed which is great most of them don’t offer the dust cover to be removed.
Specifications Listed:

Type Belt drive turntable, fully automatic
Motor DC servo-controlled
Speeds 33-1/3 RPM, 45 RPM
Turntable Platter Aluminum
Wow and Flutter Less than 0.25% (WTD) @ 3 kHz (JIS)
Signal-to-Noise Ratio >50 dB (DIN-B)
Output Level Pre-amp “PHONO”: 2.5 mV nominal at 1 kHz, 5 cm/sec
Pre-amp “LINE”: 150 mV nominal at 1 kHz, 5 cm/sec
Phono Pre-Amp Gain 36 dB nominal, RIAA equalized
Power Supply Requirements 120V AC, 60 Hz, 3W
Dimensions 360.0 mm (14.17″) W x 97.5 mm (3.84″) H x 356.0 mm (14.02″) D
Weight 2.98 kg (6.6 lbs.)
Accessories Included Dual RCA (female) to 3.5 mm (1/8″) mini-plug (male) stereo adapter cable; dual RCA (female) to 3.5 mm (1/8″) mini-plug (female) stereo adapter cable; 45 RPM adapter


Replacement Stylus: ATN3600L

This table sounds amazing! If your looking to get into vinyl and want to listen to them the way they should be heard start with the LP60.
It sounded so good it blows CD away I couldn’t say that before with that Encore Turn Table I was using.

 

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Backyard outside Home Theater on the cheap.

Most important thing in making a outdoor theater is the projector these can be expensive but since this is on the CHEAP. I went with a model that was CHEAP! but also has a decent enough picture quality and large enough projection size  up to 150″ to be enjoyable.
150″= 12.5′ x 6.1′ that shit is huge and this posting makes is HUGELY CHEAP!!!
And it also handles HD as well 720 or 1080i or p. That is at a minimum you will want an HD projector these days the prices are at a excellent point for HD models. UltraHD /4k Projectors are very expensive.

The model I went with was a Walmart special can be bought online at the normal retailers like Amazon or Newegg.
The RCA RPJ116 LED Projector 30″ to 150″ 1080i
Specifications

Brand
RCA
Resolution
Supports 1080p (as well as 1080i, 720p, 576i, 480p, and 480i)
Condition
New
Model
RPJ116
Color
White
Manufacturer Part Number
RPJ116
Assembled Product Weight
4.409 oz
Assembled Product Dimensions (L x W x H)
3.86 x 12.01 x 7.87 Inches

This was on sale for $89 we had a discount and got it for $82 but I did see they are selling refurbished models for $48.37 can go this route if your looking to go UBER CHEAP!!
And free shipping too.
You don’t have to get the same one I did shop about see if there si something better in same price range or a little more.

The next thing you will need is a screen to watch it on in the place you decide is large enough to put up the screen and allow 10 or more people to sit about lounging watching your CHEAP!! outdoor theater.
Don’t be a dunce make sure your placing your UBER CHEAP screen where there is no street lights beaming on it. Because more light will really lessen the effect of your CHEAP Theater.
Also decide if you want one you can pull down easily or if it’s just fine becoming a backyard ornament.
There are screens you can make with wood and paint the plywood white and project to that. There are also Blow up screens available.  These you will not find on the CHEAP!!
I went with good ole Ebay for my screen shopping and decided on building a frame for it. Frame equals less wood, less wood equals CHEAP!
Name it went by on listing  16:9 150” Portable 3D Manual Hanging Projector Screen Home Video Projection US paid $47 for it that included shipping SUPER CHEAP!!
It’s now selling for $49.99 or make offer. Don’t think he will go lower than $47 I tried $45 ended up countering at $47 and change.

The frame is something you will have to look at even after you pull the screen from it when your finished watching movies outside.
You can use house paint you have around the house or even spray paint you may have laying about.
To keep this on the CHEAP you don’t want to spend any extra on paint so settle for a color you can live with that you already have in your garage or shed.
Or if you don’t hit up Dollar General they sell spray paint the CHEAPEST! at $2.47 a can you can’t beat it keep in  mind since DG paint is so damn CHEAP! it’s runny and may require an extra layer of spray.
Or you can do Walmart and pay $3.67 a can and not have a runny CHEAP can of paint that requires 2 coats.
CHEAP is good but if that CHEAP is gonna cost ya in the end avoid it.

Tools needed:
Skill Saw  “If you don’t own one use a saw or even better get a friend to bring his Skill saw. Act like you don’t know how to use it.  Have him cut the wood for you CHEAP!!”
Drill/Driver tool
Measuring Tape
Wood nails
Wood screws

The wood I used 2×4’s for the frame it is to be treated for outdoors.
Since I went with 150″ screen it required 4-10ft 2×4’s  2-12ft 2×4’s.
I realize that the screen is 12.5 ft but the wood lays flat so it gives you an extra 7″ which is needed for the black boarder around the screen.
You will want your screen to mount as tightly as possible to remove any wrinkles in the white projection area.

Home Depot
Wood is weather shielded
12ft 2×4= $8.47 x2= $16.94
10ft 2×4= $6.88 x4= $27.52

Lowes
Wood is weather shielded
12ft 2×4= $8.22 x2= $16.44
10ft 2×4= $6.67 x4= $26.68

As you can see the prices are close but if your wanting CHEAPEST LOWES WINS!!
Remember to measure everything even your screen before cutting your wood to spec.
You will need to get curved braces for both sides of the frame they cost $2 each at Home Depot
Will also need 2-4 straight braces for the Braces you’ll place behind the frame these cost about $2.50 each. Don’t want wind blowing down your new Theater do you?

The 10ft 2×4’s are used for the Screen and will be dug into ground 2ft after frame is completed.
Here is what it should look like after you have completed the frame and put into the ground.
Front view screen

Remember the sizes of wood I used were if you were building a 150″ screen frame if larger or smaller you would possibly have to buy different sizes.
The 10Ft 2x4s go 2ft into the ground and the other 2 10ft 2×4’s are behind the screen bracing it from weather like wind.
Frame braces

The braces are not buried into the ground and since I put it closely to our house I will use 2- loop hooks to mount a chain to the frame and to the house to brace it as well this will ensure it’s safe from wind both directions.
On the back I use a tarp that is partially reflective “Black or dark Blue” this is to trap any light that escapes from behind the screen when projecting a movie from the front.
Note: Use 2 tarps make sure they over lap in the center this will allow wind to pass through and keep it from ripping even on light winds. And use 2 rope in an X pattern behind the tarps this will hold the tarps and not allow them to just blow as far back will brace the tarp somewhat. Take a look at the picture of the frame and tarp from behind you will see the X pattern from the ropes bracing the tarps .
You can choose to paint your frame before the bury or after it really doesn’t matter since the wood is weather proof and will last some time.
I later painted my frame Black and mounted my miller Light bottle Lights around the frame and built a small stand that goes under the frame for sound system.
This brings us to a sound system.

You can opt to skip this step completely and just use the sound that comes from the RCA projector.
While it’s sound is decent. When outside with talking and other night time sounds this probably won’t be enough.
You can use spare PC speakers that you have on it or you can use a sound bar or a receiver with Speakers it’s up to you and what your willing to spend on this venture.
Since I went a bit off the CHEAP here I still didn’t pay all that much for the sound system.
I already owned a pair of outdoor speakers which I mounted to the side of the frame.
I did have a few spare receivers but were being used by other setups or my son.
And also had a spare Blu-ray player that was never being used. If you only have a spare DVD player use that as well also keep in mind the RCA projector has a USB port that you can watch movies from using a USB thumb drive Divx and other formats are supported this way.
Which left me in need of a receiver since this is outside I do not need surround sound I just need raw sound in stereo.
Which first should be looked for locally in thrift shops or local Goodwill if you can’t find a decent working one there try pawn shops and then lastly go to Ebay.
I found an old Kenwood 103AR Receiver 50 watts per channel and handles 4 channels.
got this on Ebay for $40 free shipping not as cheap as my Garage Pioneer I got for $20 but $40 is still CHEAP!!

Seating
There are many things you can do for seating lawn chairs blankets or can even build your own it’s up to you it’s your backyard theater you can change or make this how ever you like.

Popcorn and treats are a must as well everyone likes that stuff and if your 21 or older pack those coolers with BEER! Just NOT CHEAP BEER YOU’LL SHIT YOUR PANTS IN THE AM.

In all seriousness in total this project only ended up costing me  $263.82 Included Projector, screen, wood, paint, brackets, sound system,25ft hdmi cable from Amazon $7.
Nails and screws I already had so these will cost you another $10-$20 for big boxes can use the leftovers on some seating or stands your going to build for your outdoor theater.
Note: The math for total spent is give a few bucks take a few bucks but it is under $300.

Since this isn’t a top of the line projector you will only want to start watching at dark.
The picture quality is really good for the price range I was completely impressed by how good the quality I was getting on a almost 13 foot screen. I expected so little that when I saw it I was surprised. That isn’t a bad thing it really does get good quality and is LED based 50,000 hour use that is a lifetime for us. We don’t watch TV outside every night.
And everyone that came and joined us that night neighbors and all  loved it.

Here it is finished painted with lights on but haven’t started movie yet. You can see the bench I built with some spare wood for the Receiver and Bluray player.

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To those that are willing to try and do it. I had a great time building and getting this together more so than watching movies after.
And my kids like it as well which brings me more joy than the project it self. My kids range from 20’s to 17 so if you have younger kids this thing will look like a house to them. And get plenty of family nights in the fresh air.

I am debating on building a platform bleacher type seating using pallets.
This is a challenge for another day or maybe year who knows maybe this week?
If you have done this please feel free to post a link to in in the messages.

 

Forgotten item where to place your projector.
I use a old tri-pod that we had packed away and placed boards on the ground to keep it some what level even though I can adjust that with the tri-pod.
Would rather make small adjustments to height each leg than major adjustments.
You’ll want the projector on a stable table or tri-pod to ensure it doesn’t hit the ground. I hear it’s pretty tough from reviews heard it can take a bit of a beating. But I’m not willing to give that a try.
So you’ll need a small table that is at least 3-4ft off the ground a tripod you can adjust height I felt this was an easier path 1st time I used it was on a chair with a few books it was a mess.

The projector I use the RCA is about 14-16feet away from the screen to project a 150″ image. The smaller the screen the closer it will be and better quality as well.
For best image quality on the RCA I’d say 100″-120″ is the sweet spot 150″ still looks really good though.
Every projector is different and remember brighter the Lumens doesn’t always mean better every brand uses different technology so keep that in mind when shopping and read plenty of reviews from people that actually own it.
Especially on the cheaper projectors brighter can mean less contrast less contrast means less detail.

Settings I use that seem best at 150″ after dark.
Contrast 90
Brightness 40 “setting this to high will get a brighter picture but much less detail”
Temperature Warm

Color Default
Sharpness 40-60 “Turning lens is not same but is used for focusing and will effect sharpness”
On Televisions I prefer Cool setting for temperature but I find Warm to be best on this projector.
Seems to me the projector pushes blues while LCD or OLED push red more so than Blues. This is why Temp setting is best warm.
Mess with these settings to get the best picture quality you can harness out of it.

Virtual Reality & 3d

I’ve been thinking a bit recently regarding 3d and VR aka: Virtual Reality. Thinking if VR will go the way of 3d. That being dead.

Avatar made 3d a thing again in a huge way the 3d technology was much better than anaglyph days of the 80s’ and earlier.
To this day Avatar is best viewed in 3d watching it in 2d just doesn’t have that BANG! It really is an awesome example of what could be done with 3d when used in a artistic way not in the gimmicky ways of the past having actors use a shovel handle pointed at you.

The industry ate it up and then released Televisions that offered Active or passive 3d one required expensive battery operated shades the other passive just regular glasses with polarized lenses.
On top of that you also needed a Bluray player to play these 3d Blurays and if you wanted to connect to your surround system well then you needed a receiver that supported 3d as well.
Not to mention you needed the 3d movies which cost double the price of the standard Bluray and you needed extra glasses as well if you have a family or invite a few friends over to watch. And if you had an active 3d Television each pair of glasses could cost anywhere from $20 to $200 a pair. The passive glasses were cheaper much cheaper light weight and could get a dozen pair for $10.

As of now Oct 2017 there is not 1 TV manufacturer that has made a TV that has 3d capability not even the high end models.
They are concentrating on 4k and really concentrating on HDR HDR10, Dolby Vision, HLG HDR & Technicolor HDR and a few others are out there as well.
LG was one of the last manufacturers to offer 3d and was only in their high end 2016 OLED television sets Curved models.
Curved another fading trend I never liked curved TV’s. Only reason I went with curved is because the 2016 curved LG OLED model was the only version that offered 3d in the 55″ range.
I’m actually a bit saddened that 3d is gone not that I watched it often as a matter a fact I rarely do. But when I do watch a documentary or movie in 3d I really enjoy it. When I am out looking to purchase a Bluray I look for 4k BR that includes the 3d and 2d versions because I like the option to watch in 4k w/HDR or 3d. Life Of Pi for example was another must see in 3d. Now the latest 4k Version has been up ticked nicely with HDR.
I couldn’t imagine watching TV in 3d all the time and makes me wonder if that is something others expected and did not get?

This got me thinking about VR: Virtual Reality which at this time is really gaining traction.
Could it die the sad death that 3d has?
I recently purchased the Oculus Rift with 3 sensors and hand controllers for interaction.
First I compare them.
Both require being worn
both are expensive
Both require software that supports it.

Then I looked at the difference.
VR is a personal experience and so is the software it uses “gaming”.
It is interactive and your in it not looking at it through a box.
3d movies are usually a shared experience and if not people lounge watching TV having glasses push into your face is annoying not to mention they darken the image.
There is absolutely no interaction with 3d televisions except for when you navigate the main menu to select Play or the Audio version.

I like 3d I really do like it once an a while but let me tell you that VR is plain awesome a totally different experience altogether.
This awesome factor isn’t enough to make everyone say it’s going to live on and change the way we use our computers and other devices.
I hope it does I‘m no fortune teller but stepping back and really looking at both technologies I think VR has a much better chance than 3d did or does.
Maybe I’m more hoping it does well because I love it so much. But I think anyone that gives it a chance and just tries it will see there is more to this VR than just gaming alone.

And I think after 3d is gone completely it will have it’s own community that will stick around to sell and trade 3d movies and hardware. If you do have a 3d TV & a Bluray player or PlayStation 3 may want to save it because you may want to go back and watch that 1 movie that was made in 3d back in 2010 because it was how the original print was meant to be viewed.

Just like the old anaglyph 3d movies that are out there that are still worth watching.
Freddy’s Dead was an absolute terrible movie but the way they implemented 3d “Freddy Vision” into it was ingenious. 

 

 

HD Radio home components a bust.

Added the HD-Radio tuner to the home theater system a little over a year ago.
Only to find that the tuners are flawed they lack venting or any heat sinks to keep the chips cooled down.
What happens after a very short time is the radio will no longer hold any HD signal for more than a few moments at a time before dropping signal completely and not reverting to standard signal like it is supposed to when a HD signal drops. Which once you are locked in it should not drop at all especially when your tuner is attached to an outdoor antenna that is 30+ ft high.
Most realize that there is a heating issue once they have this happen but is to late the damage is done cooling & heat sinks can’t repair damage already done they can only prevent heat damage.
Which left me to either re-purchase another HD-Radio Tuner and take it apart right away modify case add fans and also heat sinks before ever turning it on. Or simply just buy a SiriusXM Home tuner instead. Which does not have the overheating issues but will cost me a monthly fee.

There are only a few rack type HD-Radio tuners and all are made by 1 or 2 companies Sangean & Insignia there are a few different models but all have the same flaw. And both start at $150-$200.
There are a few different models each company makes one model has only analog output while the other supports both analog out and Optical SPDIF Output.
At $150 it should have the optical output anyhow.
HD-Radio not to be confused with Satellite radio they differ not only in hardware types but HD-Radio doesn’t cost you any monthly bills.
Sony does have a model that has outputs but is not a rack type tuner it has an alarm clock look or a modern boom box ipod dock.
Sony XDR-S10HDiP

As you can see this just isn’t something that will stack up in your home theater cleanly.
While the Insignia and Sangean models look similar but work in a rack setup.
Sangean HDT-20_
Insignia NS-HDTUNE

What I decided was to not replace the HD-Radio at that cost to have to modify it and hope it lasts a few years to get my $200 worth.
I  miss Howard Stern and the metal station the Polk Audio XRT12  was perfect it fits in a rack system and it only costs $60!
Sure a small monthly bill kind of sucks ass but it will work and not overheat and die in under or a little over the year mark.

Polk XRT12

 

Is 4k Blu-Ray media dead before it catches on?

Recently I purchased a UltraHD aka:4k Blu-ray player and 6-7 4k movies a few were true 4k the others were 2k scans or 3k scans that were converted to 4k.
I have watched them all and the only 4k movie that was the least impressive compared to the 1080p Blu-ray was The Huntsman: Winter’s War. And it was still an improvement regardless the darker scenes were greatly improved upon and of course the colors & has finer detail than the 1080p version.

Many movies are 2k scans upconverted to 4k but that is changing more this past year are being filmed in higher than 4k resolution.
Then there is streaming 4k movies and TV shows many feel this is why 4k Bluray will fail.
With Amazon, Hulu & Netflix at the front pushing 4k w/HDR seems like a solid win why buy 4k media?
But those who know the tech know that in order to stream 4k you need 15mb to do so which means the content is heavily compressed and not truly a 100% 4k stream.
4k Blurays push 100-128mbps continuously compared to the 15mbps that fluctuates for streaming 4k with Netflix, Amazon & Hulu.
It’s pretty clear where the true 4k can be seen at and it’s not streaming.
I watch shows on these platforms in 4k some what regularly and will say that these 4k streams look little better than the 1080p streams they provide. If someone has never seen true 4k content and first sees a Netflix or Amazon stream they will walk away very unimpressed.
Which does damage the 4k market in my opinion.
I can see the differences because I am accustomed to watching and even comparing different versions of movies. But someone who is not won’t see any difference with streaming 4k content.

1080p Blurays look great even on 4k panel televisions but a true 4k Bluray will look far better.
Even 1080p 3d movies look better on 4k panels “Passive only” Active won’t make any difference. There is good reason why.
On the 4k panel it can render the 3d image completely on the large resolution with no dulled brightness. Where on a 1080 screen it must split the resolution between both eyes. This depends on Active or passive different story unrelated to 4k Blu-ray;-)
There are benefits to 4k in some areas but what it comes down to is the future really streaming?

I hope not:-( will be a sad day if this happens. I really hope people today are smart enough to do their homework and see that if media dies off so does quality.
ATSC 3.0 broadcast won’t be able to handle true 4k we know streaming really can’t at only 15mbps.
The only way to truly see 4k and any upcoming changes will be through media and the hardware that can play said media.
And that doesn’t include the audio side of things which broadcast and streaming can’t do well or sometimes at all.
On Netflix there are 4k movies that don’t even allow old Dolby 5.1 only stereo due to it’s limitation in bandwidth.
Dolby 5.1 is old tech we are 4-5 generations past that now and only 4k Bluray media can hold both highest quality image and sound of Dolby-Atmos and DTS-X.
There is also DTS-HD and Dolby TrueHD which are also a few generations ahead of the old Dolby Digital 5.1.

Let’s hope that media and the hardware to play the media is not going to be limited to only the top end of the consumer market.
For it to be successful it needs to be adopted by all to not only improve technology later but to also bring down current generation prices as well.
4k TV’s are already there and cost the same as 1080 models of yesterday.

With the XboxOne S capable of playing 4k media hopefully this will help the market.
What I have read that DVD still brings most profit while standard Blu-rays only hold like 20% of the market.  Breaking into this market will be tough unless there are plans to discontinue DVD.
It all comes down to the average consumer and if they see 4k worth their hard earned cash.
The high end consumers are not nearly enough to make 4k Blu-ray successful.

I want to say that it will succeed and 4k Blu-ray will stay but right now I think it’s still undecided.
All the odds are against it but it’s still being put out on store shelves not just Best Buy even Walmarts.
And with Disney close to releasing 4k and many others that are it helps when the odds are against it. Although I think Disney may be waiting for DolbyVision aka: Dolby’s HDR to support 4k Blu-ray first.
Think at CES Universal, Warner and Lionsgate pledging support for Dolby Vision discs so thinking Disney not far behind.
I prefer HDR-10 over Dolby Vision but guess others see it differently.
Right now 4k Blu-rays are HDR-10 but Dolby Vision is jumping on as well I’m sure others will follow.
There are also HDR from HLG and one from Technicolor these will most likely appear on 2017 model Televisions and up and maybe a FW update for 2016 models?
Now they will release 10 different types of HDR to try and  make a competition between manufacturers that support some and not others.

What happened to Plasma Televisions?

In the mid 1990’s the flat panel was introduced to the public and out to market for people who had $20,000-$30,000 to get this new exotic Plasma technology.
I remember the commercials of the TV on a ceiling over a bed thinking how cool!
Now with what we know who the hell would want a 160lb TV 9-12 feet above them when they slept?! Lol certain death for sure.  Who would hang a TV on a ceiling any how? Maybe an asshole?

Plasma TV’s produced the best picture quality.”period” for many, many years until 2013-2014 OLED technology was able to produce high resolutions and larger than 18″ panels.
But it wasn’t OLED that took Plasma down it was the thin light weight LCD/LED panels that did it.
And they never and still have not come close to even matching plasma picture quality. LCD/LED panels not getting close to Plasma is incorrect really they are getting closer but still not there.
a old 2014 Plasma 1080p vs the 2015-16 UHD 4k LCD/LED  still did not match the plasma displays color or picture quality.
Plasma didn’t need 120hz-240hz it just kicked ass naturally and had no picture deterioration during fast moving or action packed scenes like LCD/LED panels did and still do.
Well for the most part the super high end 4k models from Sony & Samsung are okay with fast moving action but still don’t rival or match plasmas picture quality and color.
As of December 2014 the last  plasma factory was closed down by Panasonic who was the Plasma kings.
They have officially moved to LCD/LED & OLED and will be using LG’s LCD & OLED panels.

Which is good they were close to shutting down their TV line completely.
Panasonic makes great products.

But Plasma had the better picture almost reference how did an inferior product like LCD/LED take it down?
Most will say it was poor marketing on Panasonics part, Limited consumer knowledge, falsified info regarding plasma.
The list can go on for a little more. Sure these issues did have an impact on it’s demise.
But I think what killed Plasma was partial consumer ignorance but mostly Plasma’s weight and size.
Today everyone wants small foot print even if they are buying a 70″ TV they want it light and thin. Not to mention Plasma couldn’t compete in the super sized markets of 70″ and up panels.
And even if plasma could give you a 70-80″ TV it would weigh 500lbs.
Even small panels have you ever saw a laptop with a plasma screen?  Or a cellular or tablet?
Smallest plasma could get was 32″ and there weren’t many of them out there.
This is where LCD/LED just whipped the pants off plasma now with the maturity of LCD/LED it’s getting close to plasma picture quality but they keep getting bigger and lighter.

When the consumer see’s LCD on their phones and tablets and computers, laptops this alone is selling LCD technology. And not to mention the fantastic marketing being done for it from huge manufacturers like Sony & Samsung.
Plasma didn’t stand a chance.
Over it’s life span on the market and many generations later the plasma did get a little lighter and a little thinner. But could never compete with LCD on that level.

My own personal issues with plasma were not weight or how thin it was. I always preferred plasma over LCD technology for it picture quality.
But The Burn-in/image retention issues were to hard to ignore.
Later generations claimed to have fixed the issue with image burn or retention but it was just to late by then I had already adopted LCD/LED technology.
In truth I just did not believe they fixed the burn-in issues with shifting.
I had repaired a Vizio 32″ Plasma television they never came back for it so I kept it.
It was a 2009 model which was on it’s 15th or 16th generation panel. Claims that burn-in and retention were a thing of the past with plasma displays.
If I put on a TV show for 30 minutes on TNT or TBS the logo would burn-in on the bottom corner. After an hour or 2 on a different channel with no logo’s and turning the TV off a few times the image would no longer be present.
This was very concerning it indicated to me that if I had decided to watch a week long marathon on one channel like TNT the burn in would be permanent.

If I ever do run into a Plasma display that needs repair that is 2013-1014 model I’m going to put it to the test and do the 30 minute sitcom on TBS.
Willing to bet it gets retention. I don’t care what manufacturer it comes from. Well in 2013-14 only Panasonic was making and releasing Plasma TV’s.

The future of OLED Televisions.

LG is the creator of OLED technology and was the only manufacturer to produce and sell OLED televisions. “Here in America” Samsung did have a model or 2 as well early on in the OLED release back when Samsung was praising the tech.
Back in 2013/2014 the 1st generation of OLED was on the market LG & Samsung were the 2 companies to release the OLED there was the LG 55EM9700 & Samsung KN55S9
The prices were high LG’s OLED $8,999 Samsungs OLED $9,999. And LG Dropped the price to go against Samsungs OLED.
Later on “2014” Only 1 model released prior and no others produced Samsung decided with OLED’s short lifespan of 30,000 hours and issue with the color blue dying out before red or green to no longer make any OLED televisions and is concentrating on Quantum Dot and QLED another off shot of OLED which LG holds patents on.
The future of OLED was not looking so bright with only LG pushing this technology.
Even if it’s the best quality picture you can get even over Sony’s $50,000 professional-grade studio monitor.  If no one is making the tech then prices never drop and it drops off the market and peoples minds very quickly.
Over seas was quite different there were other OLED manufacturers that released televisions. Names like Changhong 55Q1A “China”, Skyworth Tianchi E980 “China”, Konka 65X90PU  “No info on region surely not the states”, KTC 55L8EF “China”, Metz Novum Twin R  “Germany”, Loewe Bild 7  “German”, Skyworth S9-I  “China”, Grundig 65VLO9790  “Scandinavia”,. All OLED models “Just the OLED Panels” listed are produced by LG.

Fast Forward to 2016-17 and now 5th-6th generation panels OLED has matured and become a bit cheaper to mass produce.
And also has a lifespan longer than what’s rated on LCD/LED televisions over “100,000 hours” and the blue color issue long resolved.
Now Samsung is saying no to OLED “for now” Sony’s Bravia line is introducing OLED  in 2017 Sony Bravia A1 & A1E.
LG still releasing OLED models as well and now Panasonic is also releasing OLED Televisions in 2017.
With Samsung now basically saying it’s surviving so we will produce OLED again if we must to stay competitive in the UHD TV market and Vizio also considering.
OLED IS NOT going anywhere it’s here to stay and 2017 will be the year people start putting them in their homes. With 55″ OLEDS as low as $2,500 and when on sale as low as $1,999.
It’s just a matter of time that everyone takes notice.
By 2020 I think it’ll be wide spread with Picture on glass OLED and fully Flexible OLED TV’s there will be a TV for everyone and every type of setup imaginable.
Current OLED’s 2016 and up are as thin as a credit card 1mm thick weighing less than 30lbs for a 55: TV.
Almost forgot Philips is also in the OLED game this year.
http://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.php?subaction=showfull&id=1486966135

Check out the flexible OLED amazing!-:
https://youtu.be/-uazGyw99e0

LG OLED thin as news paper and rolls up too. This may be the future of newspaper.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHSdObeUdxI

Only issue I see with OLED at this time is no production of any panels that are 20″-32″ for the laptop/desktop market.
There are plenty of Cell phone OLED screens and 55″, 65″ 75″ television sizes.
Comes down to production I saw a SonyDrive XEL-1 OLED it is 11″ and at a cost that exceeds a 55″ OLED Television $2,499! A few hundred $$ more and you can buy a 2016 65″ OLED TV.
For now it seems that cutting computer sized panels is costly and ruins possible larger screens that could of been produced.

Until OLED is more widely used as home TV’s chances are we won’t see any OLED computer or laptop screens for a few more years. Hopefully I’m wrong.
OLED’s latest models would make great laptops and even desktops. even thinner & lighter laptops computer screens that are thin and clear like glass until you turn your PC on.
Or Laptops that have a thin flexible screen that can be inserted and pulled out of the laptop making it much more portable. Or Tablets that are glass  no speakers needed now that OLED’s can produce sound right from the screen.
The possibilities are endless and in my opinion the next major step forward.

Sound from the OLED panel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tA8RZl0Y44